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Riddick 3: You Are Not Manly Enough To Read This Review Of This Very Manly Movie

Statement of bias: I freaking love Riddick.

Seriously, I have watched Chronicles of Riddick more times than I can count, made Kevin also watch it, and the phrase “You shoulda taken the money, Toombs,” is permanently embedded in our relationship’s vocabulary. I was very sad they didn’t make the whole trilogy, and excited for Riddick 3.

It was a very manly movie.

Vin Diesel was manly. Also briefly naked. Manly naked. In silhouette.

Manly silhouette.

For approximately eighty percent of you, there is no further need to read more.

For the rest of you who have not clicked away to buy tickets RIGHT NOW….

Well, it’s not Chronicles. It’s somewhat more erratic. At times you are conscious of watching a bad movie (a very manly bad movie) but there are a few parts that are downright brilliant (the scene with the storage locker is hysterically well done) and also it’s a Riddick movie and thus a lot of badass fun with quite good CGI aliens ala Pitch Black and also if you are me and/or Otter, there are parts of this movie more or less designed to pander specifically to you. Had they harvested all my information off the internet and dedicate about twenty minutes of screen time to exactly what Ursula Adriane Vernon of North Carolina, Mac user, 36 and self-employed, wants out of a Riddick movie, they could not have hit it more precisely.

It is rather gory, in the nasty visceral I-can-feel-that way, not just in the buckets-of-blood-squirty way. Also, alien dog-analogs die. If these are a dealbreaker, stay home. You will be sad. Wait until the clip of Manly Naked Riddick hits YouTube and make some hot chocolate. Then watch it while drinking hot chocolate. You could probably follow with the “It’s Raining Men” clip cut to 300. That would be excellent.

It is also manly.

Very manly.

Manliness occurs.

Riddick does manly things while climbing very manly rocks on a manly planet. Merely watching the screen caused Kevin to grow extra chest hair. (I mean, he already has plenty, so you couldn’t tell, but I could hear it growing.) I believe I ovulated twice, although I was also becoming more manly, so it got complicated and there is a slim chance I have accidentally impregnated myself. But believe me, everyone is very manly. The female lead is also manly, although this is no reflection on her or the movie. I believe it was caused by the planet.

The very manly planet.

There is at least one scene where they went “Those speeders in Return of the Jedi? Not metal enough.”

How manly was it?

You remember those 1950′s pulp magazines called, like, “MAN’S DIGEST” which had a cover of some shirtless guy punching a jaguar in the face with a snake? Manly like that. Replace “shirtless guy” with “shirtless Vin Diesel” and “jaguar” with “alien scorpion snapping turtle” and you’ve about got it.

Also for some reason one of the mercenaries is a dead ringer for J. Grant of Two Lumps, only about a foot bigger in every direction. This caused some mental consternation. Not that I couldn’t see J. as a space mercenary, I just didn’t expect him to be so tall.

The only thing I didn’t enjoy thoroughly (other than the alien dog analog thing) was that as usual, every female character in the series would like to have sex with Riddick. This is not really unrealistic, I grant you, but Riddick teeters on the squishy edge of Mary Sue anyway, and I do roll my eyes a bit. (ETA: It's more annoying than usual in this one for Reasons, although they DO do a couple things really right with the character, so mixed bag of Great/Awful.) (The only one of these flirtations I found hot was in Pitch Black. It’s not the manliness, actually. It’s the scene at the end where he’s all “Come on. It’s okay, you did your best, let’s go…” I kinda needed to sit down and fan myself for a bit after that one. Shame she’s eaten by aliens five minutes later.)

(No, I don’t know why, out of movie after movie with Vin Diesel’s torso, that’s the one that killed me. Eh, go figure. She was also the only female character I really empathized with in the whole lot.)

(Empathized in a manly way, obviously.)

(A very manly way.)

(Super manly empathy.)

(I have the sudden urge to hug someone from the side so that our genitals stay a respectable distance apart, and then perhaps discuss the Infield Fly Rule with someone. In a manly fashion.)


Originally published at Tea with the Squash God. You can comment here or there.

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SPOILERS BE HERE (little spoilers)

I am gay, and the trope of lesbian-who-is-only-a-lesbian-until-she-meets-a-REAL-MAN is my singularly most hated thing in the world. I think it is both problematic and hugely damaging as far as perception and acceptance of actual trufax lesbians (like myself!) is concerned. So when I realized that was where they were going with Dahl (that's her name right?) I was very put off and taken out of the movie for about five minutes...

Until I remembered that I have said, SO many times, when trying to explain to the uninitiated my undying love for Riddick/Vin Diesel, "even lesbians love Vin Diesel! He's AMAZIIIING."

Ahhhhh hoisted on my own petard.

Honestly, that annoyed me too. I would actually have been happier if she'd gone "Nope. Still don't fuck guys," as they were hoisted into the sunset.

But that's part and parcel of my Riddick-Sue problem, and they did some substantial things RIGHT with her, like not doing the tired old rape-rescue scene we were all expecting.

I went to see the movie with my hubby and my girlfriend and several other friends. (My husband got to be extra-manly surrounded by five large-breasted women. That's got to count for something in the manly department, right?) We decided that when she asked him something "all sweet like" what she actually asked him was to show her how he did the thing with the dog-killer's knife.

Or if they did have sex, she wore a strap-on and pegged him.

i would read the pegging fic. i am sincerely hoping fandom makes that one happen.

We decided that when she asked him something "all sweet like" what she actually asked him was to show her how he did the thing with the dog-killer's knife.

This is TOTALLY WHAT HAPPENED in my headcanon.

Seriously, I just cannot convince myself she actually had sex with him, regardless if Riddick is manly enough to send gay women for a saunter on that side of the street. I can *totally* accept that she found him appealing (and to be fair you can actually watch her come around to him in the context of the film), but actually boning him? Not so much. Knife tricks, though, absolutely.

Yeah, my husband & I decided on the way home that the "ask you all sweet like" was proceeding a good sqeeze to that gaping hole in his chest and a "just how much DOES this suck?" .

Seriously, though, they could have used the exact same line with a good dose of irony on Dahl's part and that scene would have been genius. Instead, they went there and now we can only pretend they didn't.

Holding out for director's cut!

Unfortunately the director (and a team of two other guys, not Diesel) wrote that singularly movie-ruining set of lines, so his "cut" is unlikely to do anything but be more ruinous.

Yeah, mostly it boiled down to she was actually, legitimately, a very capable and badass character who got to punch the guy we all wanted to punch, many times, and never dealt with any of the normal 'consequences' female characters tend to suffer for doing it.

My interior monologue when I realized they were going to go there with her was pretty amusing, went something along the lines of "oh yeah, so convincing, of course YOU Mr Vin Diesel Awesome Riddick are TOTALLY like SO MANLY you could even be attractive to les-- bi... ans... AUGH DAMMIT I am still angry on principle just so you know!"

The theory that I like best is that she knew perfectly well, after that stab wound, that he wasn't capable of crap and she was being sarcastic--and it was in response to the "straddling" line earlier. (And given they had to get the second ship, clean him up, and dump him in a med bay, he woulda had maybe ten minutes.)

In the end, too, SHE rescued HIM, so that's something.

There are so many reasons why it's not plausible/possible, and they all much such good sense, and yet! It is clear to me that it is not what the narrative was going for so I cannot find it in me to give them that pass. But at the same time, I think I will carry those alternatives (which all make such good sense) for next time I watch it. And there will be a next time.

I was wondering, what are your thoughts on Chronicles? I loved Pitch Black but had many, many reservations about Chronicles, even though it did have Riddick in it. I've only seen it once though, so although I know some of my issues are not going to go away, I'm wondering if it might be worth a second watch -- you know, for science.

See, I went in expecting the 'he cured my lesbianism' trope after reading your review this morning, but when it got there I didn't see that. I saw it as her teasing him while he's vulnerable and in the middle of being rescued. By her.

I think they intentionally left it vague so you could interpret it either way. If they had wanted to make that interpretation explicit, we would have had another nude scene and/or she would have been on his ship with him when they left.

It wasn't exactly an 'I want to bone you' moment, unless I've been doing it all wrong. Wait. I haven't had a date in how many years? OK, forget what I said. What do I know? You may continue about your business.

Edited at 2013-09-07 10:30 pm (UTC)

That comment was me, by the way, forgot to log in. =___=

I hear ya. No way to calculate the number of gay men who have used the "if it was done right your eyes would be opened" approach on me.

It is a sin and a shame the people you meet when you ain't got a flounder.

On overnight rethink, I think she was jerking him around. Their entire relationship (such as it was) was built out of sass and innuendo. At the end when she did that spoilery-thing which proved his Riddick-precog powers correct, she's all "Hey, you were totally right. Too bad you didn't say we had to be naked. Womp-womp."

Mm, I'd agree with you -- I'd LIKE to agree with you -- but at the end he says something about "tell Dahl to keep it warm for me" and honestly too much hinted towards 'yes' rather than 'no'. Though I am very glad they didn't make it explicit.

I could (and it may be a reach, but I mentioned my Riddick problem) go with that as one last sass when he know he'll get the last word.

*readjust headcanon*

My headcanon is your headcanon. And I am spending way too much time re-reading this entry and thread. :)

"even lesbians love Vin Diesel! He's AMAZIIIING."

...I almost feel like this might be "especially" more than "even" since only my lesbian and bi friends seem to have the same fervent love for him, though this could be that most of the straight women I know aren't quite as fannish as the rest of us.

Actually YES, I am inclined to agree with you. I only know one straight girl who has anything near the adoration I possess for Vin Diesel, but I know many lesbians/bisexual girls who are in full accord with me.

Well, clearly Ursula must join the straight-women-who-really-like-Vin-Diesel-like-a-LOT contingent though, so I guess that makes two.

I can vouch for at least one more of us. But we both married Angry Bald Men, so make of that what you will.

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