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If you're looking for me over on Dreamwidth, I'm TKingfisher over there, too!

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Is there a reason so many people are mentioning DW migration today?

I can't speak for anyone else, but the site's gone weirdly buggy on me. I get comments to show up about one time in three, I can't hit "Visual Editor" instead of "HTML", can't get's probably just a temporary glitch, but figure it can't hurt.

It definitely doesn't hurt.
I keep Lj Archive constantly updated, and try and get DW backed up every 3 months or so- it's just that today my Flist has blown up with "time to migrate" and no one is talking about why. I just woke up so I thought maybe there was some new business deal that I haven't read about yet.

I've seen some of the migration talk too, which made me think it was time. Herding behavior, probably...

As far as I can tell, the main triggering reason is that the servers have (in the last few days) been moved from the U.S. to Russia, thereby placing them under the jurisdiction of the Russian government for issues of security, privacy, and censorship.

And then, as ursulav notes, there's also herding behavior, which makes a lot of sense given that for social media to work, the herd needs to stay together!

Oooh I hadn't heard that they'd moved over to Russian servers. That's worrying. My most rampant, unsolvable art thefts have come from Russia. Thanks for the head's up.

I hadn't heard that either!

I'm still looking for something authoritative about that, but it seems likely, and the number of Russians moving to DW supports it.

There's some discussion lurking in the comments to a recent dw-maintenance post:

Unfortunately, some of that is in Russian (which I can't read) and some of what's in English links back to failfandom-anon, so also not authoritative (and beastly hard to find my way around in).

When I asked Google "where are the LiveJournal servers," one of the things it found me was a tweet from a few months ago about the servers being moved to Russia and the potential dangers there in terms of anything resembling information security.

Yeah; I've seen that. If you're using Chrome, google will happily translate for you - click the little icon on the right-hand side of the URL box.

Boris Khodorkovsky on Twitter: "Farewell free #Livejournal. Welcome to Russian reality, now at full 100%." links to with a screenshot something that gives completely different results when I do it. It's possible that the move has in fact happened, but that DNS and the routers haven't caught up yet.

There's definitely something sketchy going on.

Sketchy how? LiveJournal has had Russian owners since 2007 and has been developed in Russia since 2009. Moving the server platform there too is not exactly strange.

For an individual user, there is practically no difference at all. All the usual players will still do their mass surveillance (although I suppose it'll be slightly less legally dodgy for the NSA to do it now), and all that. The only significant difference I can think of is that it'll be harder for US corporations to subpoena information from LiveJournal.

1. It will be much easier for the Russian authorities to shut down journals they don't like, and in fact they have already done so along with the move.
2. There will be no First Amendment protection for anyone, so in fact it will be easier for any government to censor journals

The IP addresses for LIveJournal's servers lead to Moscow. While it's technically possible for the actual servers to still be elsewhere, any traffic to LJ definitely goes to Russia before it (possibly, but not likely) goes anywhere else.

Well, that might explain why my friend's feed went away suddenly. Turn off the feed in hopes it stops people from talking about the migration, maybe.


I suppose that's my que to exit stage left.

The LJ servers have been transferred to Russia and there has been interference with service and censorship of users and content already.

I know people are very conservative about their LJs, but DW offers a blogging/social platform without Russian overlord supervision.

There are also a feed of your tkingfisher tumblr and a feed of your ursula-vernon tumblr set up on livejournal. <looks faintly guilty>

I set them up a while back when I was using dreamwidth primarily as a feed aggregator, and was resisting creating a tumblr account. :}

Err. "livejournal" there should have been "dreamwidth". That's quite the braino.

Found and immediately added :)
There's an option to set cross-posting from Dreamwidth to Eljay which ensures that your updates will continue if you want them to.

Yes, that's what I use. I managed to get a 'seed' account on DW, and can crosspost to, I think, 5 other sites. So I usually write the post on DW, and crosspost to LJ and (sometimes) InsaneJournal (yes, that still exists!).

I notice that other people have already mentioned the crossposting option, which I also use. But did you know that you can import all your LJ content (posts, comments, icons, and filters) into DW? It's very straightforward: go to your Profile page and select Organize/Import Content, and then just follow instructions. The initial import is likely to take quite a while, but after that you can stay caught up by running one every quarter or so, and that doesn't take nearly as long. (This is mostly to collect all the comments in one location.)

Have added you on the DW side -- I'm stardreamer there.

Is there any risk of harming the LJ journal we export from?

I don't believe so. I originally set up my DW account and imported my LJ content in order to have a backup, during one of the earlier kerfluffles. Then I started writing posts on the DW side and crossposting from there to LJ because it was trivially easy in that direction but not in the other. I've run imports regularly since 2009, and have never seen any evidence of a negative effect on the LJ side.

Thank you. I would truly hate anything to go wrong with this journal.

Link? Feeling lazy, but want to make sure I'm not missing anything...

Just checking in, it's been a quiet month or so. Are you doing ok? <3

Yup! Just was at a con and now mega-con crudded, so I've been unable to do anything more exciting than Twitter for about a week.

Thank you, will go and add you to my Dreamwidth.

Of note, I am reading "Summer in Orcus" on the Kindle and enjoying it greatly. Earlier I posted my daily brain dump and made note of the book and recommended you to my friends. I enjoy the journal style you do and the illustrated entries. I've read work on your website and am beginning on the books. Thank you for your delightful and enjoyable work - and serious gardening which I can no longer do but like reading what you're doing.

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