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I'm just waiting to see how people are going to find a way to get bent out of shape about this one...


Yep, that sounds familiar

However, I wasn't really fazed by it, but then I suppose that that comes from growing up in San Francisco with ex-hippy parents (my dad actually lived on a commune in Marin for a while), reading Greek mythology in third grade and The Mists of Avalon in fourth (my mother later said that she wished she'd screened my reading material a little better), and having a favorite "uncle" who had a thing for firemen and the Wizard of Oz. It takes some fairly explicit and hardcore stuff to shock me anymore.

And yes, Lackey's writing is atrocious, but dear gods I can't stop reading and buying her books.


Re: Yep, that sounds familiar

Brownies for the brain. Addictive and sugary, do nasty stuff to your innards, and just oh-so-cravable if you've had a bad day and need to escape for a bit.

I got the Moment from Tanith Lee instead - in the first chapter of Night's Master is a scene in which the book explains that once Character A was old enough, Character B sexed him up, and specifies penetrative sex. Nothing too graphic, just a sentence or two. I recall pausing, blinking, wondering how that worked, then shrugging and moving on.

I think I was in seventh grade when my mother gave me a copy of "Clan of the Cave Bear" and told me I would like it. I did like it. I loved it. I wore out my copy, as well as my copies of the other books in the series and still wait with bated breath for the supposed sixth book.

But, my first time reading it, there were some parts that made me go "Whoa..." And in subsequent sequels, there were parts that made me go "WHOA!"

Which makes me wonder, having read them so avidly, why I'm such a huge prude now...


that's fucking brilliant Ursula. I think I did the same.

I learned fairly young because I had an "Aunt" and she had a "friend" who lived with her for 30 years. (The irony here is that the completely butch aunt who was in the military claims, with a straight face, that she's still "looking for the right man." Oooooookay! Don't tell your "room mate"!)

I almost just choked on my lunch laughing at that. *thumbs up*

Thanks. I like knowing it's not just me who had that moment. I like knowing it's an option, and not an external Other, but an internal possible identity.

I am totally going to get that for my bedroom. Except that then I'll have to explain it to anyone who eventually ends up in there.

I remember having a similar revelation, from either Last Herald-Mage or one of the Pern books, I can't remember which. And then, once I'd gotten it in my head that yes, that is what the author meant, I was very frustrated by the fact that she never went into detail on how such things actually worked.

THAT IS SO TRUE. I was like, what...it is two men...they're doing...what?! Am I sure one is not a woman??

Well, that's better than mine. I learned by googling "sex" in 6th gade and discovering the wonders of pornography.

The upshot of this is that I'm pretty damn hard to shock.

She has homosexual characters? -=blink=- I heard good things about her books but not THAT.

Sweet. Which ones? >_>

Most of them? :D

The "Magic's Pawn/Promise/Price" trilogy from her Valdemar series was probably one of the most obvious ones, since the main character Vanyel is, um, flaming. And angsty. Very angsty.

There was something about the covers of her novels that always reminded me think of the romance novels my mom used to read (she read the non-sex parts to us); I'll give her a shot.

I can relate to this, since reading *Marion Zimmer Bradley is how I discovered that homosexuality existed. In my case however, I felt mildly ashamed reading it, because such things were never discussed and there was so much negativity surrounding it at school. Of course I know better now.

*Specifically, "City of Sorcery", and "Lythande".