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My turn in the can 'o worms...

Okay, are we all tired of hearing about the Open Source Boob Project yet? Yes? Thought so.



*applauds*

The. Best. Explanation. Yet!

This was an IDEA?

Hooooo boy. Any con-goer that comes up to me and starts fondling things they should not be fondling will come back less a few fingers.

Open source boobs indeed.

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You're thinking of "Not Free Range Boobies," perhaps. And kobold's reaction to this brouhaha was to remind people the shirts saying same were still on sale.

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Very well written. Thank you.

Uhhh, I hadn't heard of this "open source boob project" but the phrase "entitlement much?" springs to mind, and normally I hate the e-word. Who the hell thought this would be a good idea?!!

The phrase "Do you know why this is a shit idea? Because it's so obviously a shit idea!" comes to mind as well :)

Exactly. Totally, exactly right. Thank you.

Now that I've waded into and out of the conversation, I'd say your facility with words is just fine.

Mirabile dictu, lady.


Ah, the dangers of knowing Ursula.

Complete stranger asks to touch her breasts? Laughed back under his rock.
Kindly friend looks at her with one eyebrow slightly raised? Multiple contusions.

*laugh!* Hey, now...at least I'm willing to come into physical contact with you long enough to leave the contusions. I don't extend that privilege to just ANYBODY.


I'm definitely part of the "gee, it would be great if humans didn't have all these sex hang-ups" crowd. I'm also part of the "okay, that idea wasn't going to work out" crowd.

Well, yeah. Plenty of people in that camp, I think--sure, it'd be nice if we didn't, but we do, so RED ALERT! ABORT! ABORT! etc.

I really loved the paragraphs about words and language so much that I have excerpted them, attributed them, and am holding them in reserve for the day they might become useful.

Mostly I feel bad for theferrett. He's a cool guy who had a bad idea, and people are turning him into a monster. The very *potential* that this could go wrong is turning people who would never opt in to this into witchhunters, putting words into his mouth. To the point where the idea can't even be discussed rationally because people are letting the squick factor take the short route to their mouths, completely bypassing their brains.

It's not my thing, I don't think this would be a good idea in a setting full of strangers, but Christ -- let's get a hold of our kneejerk reflexes here. This is just one bad idea, the Internet is full of them.

Because all of the thoughtful and detailed posts about privilege and sexism are totally kneejerk reflexes. What?

I've seen some of the kneejerk responses and yeah, they could certainly benefit from reading a little closer, but labelling EVERY response on this event a kneejerk reflex is really dismissive and ridiculous.

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http://theferrett.livejournal.com/1087686.html

It's a difinitively dead idea, save that it keeps getting ahead of the guy with the knife.


Well said.

I participated in some of the threads, and some of the follow-up threads, and in the threads of those on my reading list who had their own things to say, et cetera. I have an urge to argue for the underdog, to play Devil's Advocate, and to point out irrationality everywhere I see it, usually by taking irrationality to its extreme but inescapable conclusion.

My thoughts, a week later (?), on this whole thing are:
1) There is no idea so stupid that someone will not support it, if simply for unconsciously-perceived chances for personal gain.
2) There is no principle so desirable that reality cannot make it either unworkable or ridiculous in appearance.
3) There is no gain for me in arguing the other side of the coin that I could not as easily get from crouching down into a runner's position and charging head-first into a brick wall.

1) There is no idea so stupid that someone will not support it, if simply for unconsciously-perceived chances for personal gain.
2) There is no principle so desirable that reality cannot make it either unworkable or ridiculous in appearance.
3) There is no gain for me in arguing the other side of the coin that I could not as easily get from crouching down into a runner's position and charging head-first into a brick wall.


And this, ladies and gentlemen, sums up the maxim "Never argue on the Internet".

(And also sums up my last month or so. Thank you.)

Well said. Can't say I know a huge amount about the Open Source Boob Project, but I am sort of surprised that anyone thought that was a good idea. I mean...really?

Anyway, word of the highest degree, and thanks for posting this.

Well, speaking for this man, there's good ideas mentally (ogling the large breasts on that pedestrian) which are not good ideas in reality (mace to the face; chemical or morningstar).

Edit: Compromise = glance. I can replay the moment if I so wish without risking an angry boyfriend.

Edited at 2008-04-28 12:36 am (UTC)

Excellently done! metasilk sent me here. I've been following the discussion of this mess around my flist, and the flists of my flist, and from one miscellaneous link to another, and this post leaps into the top five of those I've read about the issue. Thank you!

Shameless plug: Folks might also enjoy my take. :-)

But... what if I hate Barbie? :(